I’m not a member of Fantasy Feeder, and while I haven’t visited the site in forever and a day, I can still read the forums without an account. Having said that, something has been brought to my attention and I think that this is the perfect medium to address it.
There are countless websites devoted to the diet. Not just the Weight Watchers or Jenny Craig sponsored ones either. Stick weight loss forum into google and there’s sure to be a plethora of people waiting and willing to “fight the good fight” with you. Sure, all of these people and their respective sites or forums will accept the fat you – as long as you are the right kind of fat. The fat that hates being fat and would sell your soul to be skinny. These people might advertise that they accept members of all shapes and sizes and indeed your membership might be welcomed BUT, but, they only tolerate one body type and therefore one mindset as being the correct body type and mindset. The skinny one. This of course is fine – for a diet site. The idea of posting a weight gain thread on a diet site is absolutely absurd and I doubt such a thing has ever been done.
There are also plenty of Health at Any Size (henceforth referred to as HAES) websites. I particularly enjoy these websites because the prime objective of such sites are to inform people of proper health and burst through urban legends and myths. Obviously anyone of any size is accepted at these sites and will be welcomed with open arms without any judgment. But the thing about HAES websites is that weight loss or weight gain threads don’t really belong here either.
Lets talk about FA/BBW sites. I can’t even tell you what belongs here other than things pertaining to people who are fat. I’ve seen pretty much any topic you can think of discussed on these sites, pro and anti weight loss.
And then you have Fantasy Feeder (FF). This is a website that is definitely in it’s own classification as it deals pretty exclusively with feederism and the idea of weight gain. Obviously people of all shapes and sizes are accepted because lets face it, feederism isn’t only about fat people getting fatter. Plenty of thin people lust after a growing figure, fantasize about their own figure growing or are active participants in a feederism relationship. The idea is that all people are accepted and despite a few idiot pervs telling some beautiful, but skinny, female feeders that they need to get fatter, the site on a whole has been pretty accepting of any size. Even when the 300+ crowd was becoming diluted with mere chubby girls crying about how fat they were. A few guys I knew complained, but for the most part a pretty face is a pretty face whether it’s 150 pounds or 550 pounds. Again there have been growing pains so to speak, but I’ve never faced a problem with the size tolerance of the people on the site. At least nothing major.
So we can agree that weight gain threads wouldn’t really belong on a diet forum or a HAES forum. We can agree that weight gain threads might occasionally belong on an FA/BBW site.
So why, OH WHY do diet threads have any place on FF? I can understand someone posting a thread that debunks diets and perhaps points out that dieting might not be as healthy as we once were lead to believe. I can understand that. I can understand a site like FF wanting to add a Fat Liberation section devoted to fighting for the rights of fat people. But I can’t understand why any member on FF would ever get behind dieting.* or why any of those members would hide behind Fat Liberation as a claim that the people of FF must accept the posts they make on their pro diet views. Fat Liberation has nothing to do with the acceptance of dieting as an acceptable or healthy lifestyle. Bold claim, I know. But Fat Liberation is all about breaking through the social pressure of this crazy notion that only thin is acceptable. If you want to lose weight and are not a Fat Admirer in your gender of sexual preference, then why even be on a feederism related site? Scratch that. If you are not a feedee, a foodee or and FA, then seriously why are you on FF? There are plenty of FA/BBW sites in which your opinions would be muchly appreciated. There are plenty of diet sites that would love to have you amongst their ranks, but why OH WHY are you on a feederism site if you are not interested in weight gain in some way, shape, or form ? I don’t care if it’s all a fantasy and you are skinny as a rail. I don’t care if it’s reality and you’re larger than life. If your position on fat is that fat is unhealthy then WHY ARE YOU ON A FEEDERISM SITE? Moreover why is it your business to express “concern” for the other fat people on the site and their idea of what is healthy? I as a fat person do not want to create excuses for myself. I have been fat for my entire life as anyone who’s taken the time to read my first blog will already know. The only way I lost any weight at all was by exercising like Rocky and eating 1000 calories a day. What I didn’t mention is that during that time my once perfect blood pressure rose drastically and I was battling a mild depression during my “skinny” phase. It took almost 23 hours of hard aerobic exercise and weight training per week to lose any weight, as I found simply slashing calories didn’t do a damn thing. I obviously eventually caved into my feederism desires and purposely gained even more weight than where I started at. But I’ll tell you this – March of last year I was laid off from my job and my finances became extremely meager. However living off of rice, canned veggies, plain pasta and the occasional egg on toast or baked chicken breast did not result in extreme weight loss. At the time of being let go I was a little over 320. After 2 months I had dropped down to 297 and then nothing. 5 more months of nothing. I lost no weight even if my caloric intake dropped drastically.
Contrary to popular belief, Fat Liberation does not mean that it’s ok to make blanket statements like “Lets just all admit it guys, sure maybe a SLIM margin of fatties are genetically that way but 99% of us are fat because we gorge on buckets of chocolate and never exercise.” It’s statements like THAT which make people want to defend themselves. Gorging on chocolate is nothing to be ashamed of. Hell, I never exercise and it’s nothing I hide. But some of us, even on Fantasy Feeder WERE ALWAYS NATURALLY FAT EVEN WHEN EXERCISED AND ATE LIKE AVERAGE SIZED PEOPLE. I’m not fat because I gorge on buckets of chocolate. In fact I haven’t ever gorged on buckets of anything. Sure I’m fat – but it’s not what I eat that is the issue. It’s my lack of exercise. Not that it even matters. On a typical day I eat about the same if not less than my 170 pound boyfriend. On a very happy feedee day (which is not every day) I might eat double that amount. I also refrain from any type of fast food except of the Panera Variety.
Fact of the matter is, when you say “Lets just admit we’re all lazy people who just beach ourselves on the couch and eat bon bons and do nothing all day” you are fat shaming me and many others and it is fucking offensive. Just because I am a feedee does not mean I don’t watch out for my health, eat healthy food and take care of myself. I have been fat by design since I was 3 years old. My parents tried to fix it, I’ve tried to fix it and I am seriously done trying to fix something that isn’t even a problem for me. If I didn’t overeat and exercise I’d still be over weight. I know this for a fact because when I did exercise and eat like a bird, I was still considered overweight. Guess what, even if I was the “stereotypical” fat person that often gets too much television air time; the woman who eats McDonalds all day every day, get over it. I still wouldn’t be unhealthy because I was fat. That’s like saying people with yellow teeth will get lung cancer. Not all yellow teeth are signs of smoking just like all fat people are not walking billboards for a fast food laden lifestyle. So now the person behind the posts I am upset about made a statement that fat people should not have to justify their fatness. Likewise I believe the same and yet here I am justifying my fatness because said person was making broad generalizations about fat people. See that point flying overhead? Catch it and get the net. Fat people should never be expected to accept the illegitimate claim that fat is unhealthy. By saying that it is you automatically force the healthy fatties out there to take a stand. That in itself defeats the purpose of Fat Liberation. Fat Liberation is not claiming that people who eat nothing but Doritos and Mountain Dew are amazing and that all fat people are healthy. It is, however, not demonizing people just because of the way they decide to treat their own bodies, healthy or otherwise. It’s not telling someone they are in denial because they think they are fat and healthy. You hear that I am a feedee and automatically assume that I’m just camped out at KFC everyday or spending my nights sitting in front of the fridge stuffing my face with nothing but cake and will continue to do so until my heart gives out and GUESS WHAT even if I did do that you still have no right to shame me and I still have every right to be fat and not justify my fatness. I’m sure that’s a huge disappointment and you’ll keep on forcing the notion that I’m unhealthy and therefore a bad person and you have every right to do so – JUST DON’T DO IT IN A FORUM DEDICATED TO GETTING FATTER.
Which brings us to the important issue at hand, this website isn’t about Fat Acceptance. Now, without Fat Acceptance feederism will have a harder time flourishing. People will be less likely to give in to their desires for fear of judgment and humiliation. So while FF stands in support of the Fat Liberation movement, it does in no way represent it. So being that it’s not a website about Fat Acceptance and more broad than that, Size Acceptance, why would it be appropriate to make an adamant pro diet post in a thread about articles debunking diet myths on site dedicated solely to those who want to take their chances with the health risks and gain weight? Because it is most definitely not in the spirit of the site and is pretty fucking offensive for the reasons aforementioned.
I’d never join a diet site, moreover I’d never join a diet site and post about how wonderful gaining weight is and how skinny people just don’t have the determination and patience to gain weight. I’d also never join a body building fetish site (FF IS a sexual based site) nor would I make posts on that site about the realities of body building females and etc. So let’s keep pro-dieting posts (that accomplish pretty much just that) where they belong.
* Dieting is not the same thing as healthy living FYI. I can understand someone getting behind healthy living and being on FF. There are plenty of articles on Junk Food science and many other trustworthy resources available on the interwebs that I’m too lazy/busy to look up, that will definitely paint the two as completely different animals.